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First of all, I will get it out of the way: I am/was a genre loyalist (of sorts) myself.  Not that I haven't read much in the way of horror novels since the big publishing company went in a very, very, VERY bad direction (ebooks and trade paperback), but when I DID, I was.  As in, loved, loved, LOVED my horror.  Had to have two or three horror novels in my To Be Read pile.  Would not enjoy novels that didn't have some sort of horror element (although, at this point, urban fantasy was getting extremely formulaic; if it had been awesome and every author's work had been their own, I would've also loved, loved, LOVED my urban fantasy for different reasons).  Here's the biggie:  I did not want to hear people say "Oh, the horror genre sucks!"  I also had problems with this idea that some book reviewers and commenters on their articles said "Only scary people read horror."  Uh, absolutely not.  I think, in the case of this comment, I was justified in being insulted.  But I had genre loyalty and it was BAD. 

This brings me to my point.  Right now, there are a bunch of romance readers and writers up in arms over a woman saying "Romance as a whole is rapey and there is nothing feminist about reading romance." 

I semi agree on point number one and completely agree on point number two, and I promise this is important to my overall point.  I tend to stick with paranormal romance because I like supernatural elements in anything I read, and oh boy is it bad relationships all over the place.  I wouldn't say they're "rapey" as much as "guy calls all the shots."  Even books that are "progressive" where the man and the woman agree to work as an equal unit end up with the guy making most of the decisions and getting all possessive and so on.  Never mind that a lot of these relationships are based on claiming, and sometimes it doesn't even make sense.  I could get the claiming if the man is, say, a part-time creature.  I don't understand it when the man is a god or demon.  As for the second point, I think most women read romance for the fantasy of it.  A few even admit to inserting themselves in place of the female lead at all times.  It just seems like, with all the garbage in the genre (not that all of it is garbage, by the way), you'd want to read it as an escape but say "I'm glad that's NOT me."  Unfortunately, I've never heard THAT from anyone.  Oh well, I have high expectations, so...take from that what you will.

Really, the only reason I read romance is because I can't write relationships.  I've never been in a relationship and it doesn't seem like something that'll happen anytime soon (for various reasons).  There is so much more to this paragraph, but I'll wait a few paragraphs down to make it.

The larger point I wanted to make is this: Romance readers/writers, there are going to be people who hate your genre.  I know, it sucks.  Try thinking you're a well adjusted person, only to be told you can't possibly be a functioning, decent member of the community because you read horror novels.  It's a part of life.  But more importantly, it's okay that people hate your genre.  Not everyone is going to love it just because you do.  In fact, I'd take it a step further and say most people hate the genre, not YOU.  So please, please, PLEASE for the love of everything cute and fluffy stop getting insulted over people saying stuff that may even possibly be true about your genre.  Now, it's different if someone actually does hate you for what you read.  You might be able to make a better case for yourself then.  But from what I've been seeing, it's you folks not being able to handle negative comments because you're such genre loyalists.

And here's some food for thought.  Okay, let's take me.  The two paragraphs above, I say I only read romance so I can write relationships in my own work.  There's more to it.  See, a lot of women read romance for the steaminess and such (which is part of the escape, I guess).  I can't physically/mentally get turned on by that.  I don't know why, I just can't.  I'd also like to add that there are a few book blog websites that have this feature where they post an image of this hot guy.  A lot of people get a lot out of this.  I look at those images and think "Hmmmmm, interesting scenery." or "Odd, I've never seen anyone off the street look like that." or even "Meh."  I do, however, love when these book blog websites post images of locations inspired by the books they read.  Here's another thing: When I read romance, I base my opinion on the book on how the female lead is written.  I like a good female lead (which kind of contradicts my love of horror novels but perfectly explains why I like some urban fantasy).  A book could get a "Oh hey, that was actually really good" because the female lead was engaging, intelligent, someone worth reading about, sarcastic without going over the top, or other related stuff.  The men may be interesting as well, but I do not give books high ratings because of them.  The men just do not do it for me in any sense.  Of course, I read romance novels for different reasons than most (it really is research, and I have learned a lot).  Still, the genre just doesn't appeal to me the way it does to others.

I'd like these genre loyalists to consider that.  Maybe their favorite genre is just not doing it for others.  It doesn't necessarily mean we hate you (and if someone comes across that way, whether it's me or Mr. Random, feel free to ignore/walk away), it just means we don't like the genre.

On a very related note, I am not, by any means, a scary person.  I have a part-time job that I am reasonably capable at.  I want a much more substantial part-time job, and I know I can do the work.  I will be going to college either this summer or this fall (whichever semester I can get into) on a partial scholarship (that I intend to keep all four years by working my butt off).  I may not look like the traditional girl, but I use good hygiene (please excuse the possible misspelling) and take care of myself.  I live at home at the moment, but I help around the house and take care of the pets (a tortoiseshell cat and tuxedo cat; they are fantabulous, usually).  I am a writer (unpublished as of right now) and although I'd love to write in my favorite genre (which is still horror in spite of not being able to keep up with it at the moment) I can't write my novel the right way for it.  I do not have the right edge, which is actually a good point.            
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Couple of things spawned this post.

First, I finished my first draft of Borrowed Life and realized it was still not working.  Part of the problem was just, it did not read like a real book.  That's something I think I'll be struggling with for quite some time.  The bigger problem was this: The ending was rushed.  Don't get me wrong, that is the ending I want.  It just felt like while the rest of the book details this character's life, the ending was one paragraph that said "So this is this and that is that.  The end!"  Ugh!  I mean, again, it's the ending I want as far as what happens.  It's just that I as the author felt ripped off.  Imagine what future readers would say.

Second was this post right here: http://thebookpushers.com/2011/01/11/hea-hea-why-art-thou-happy/.  It deals specifically with the romance genre, and this thing called HEA (Happily Ever After), and this reviewer's opinion is that all romance must have an HEA and she hates any book that does not.  Also, she believes that people who do not like HEAs look down on the romance genre (which I disagree with but can see where she's coming from at the same time).  Everyone who has commented agrees with this reviewer.  To be honest, I'm a bit scared to share my opinion because it is VERY dissenting.  But I will share it here because it's relevant to what I'm writing about book endings.

Here's the thing: I want a believable ending.  If you have all this buildup throughout a series and the ending fizzles out, for example, I will most likely take that book and chunk it against the nearest wall.  Can we talk plot twists here, as well?  Because I'm all for a good plot twist, but not at the very end when there was no evidence throughout the book/series to support it.  And as you might've guessed, if this happens I will take that book and chunk it through the nearest wall.  Now let's get specific-ish, because there have been some fantabulous books that have been ruined by one little topic.  Okay, although I'm not really interested in reading about characters having kids, sometimes it happens.  Fair enough.  However, the ending I think I hate most is the one where after you have a character who okay, wants a family and is okay with their pregnancy and so on, ends up with three or more kids and...that's their happy ending.  No no no, not even that.  I mean, I hate the idea that it can't be the things the character has accomplished/overcome that is the happy ending, it's that they have kids, I hate it very much.  It's that characters you think would not want kid after kid after kid (or heck, kids in general)...does that and that's their happy ending.  But that is just my personal gripe.  In short, the ending must be believable.

This reviewer says she feels that a downer ending is a way to mess with the readers.  Hmmmmm, I find that interesting she says this, because I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum.  I feel like a happy ending (particularly when it is not justified) does the same thing.  Now, I will give her some props (or, uh, not really sure of the word) and say that I don't like a downer ending like "Rocks fall and everyone dies."  Like, that exact phrase.   Um, okay, so WHY were we reading this series if that's the ending we get?

I could be completely biased on this topic because I'm more of a horror (well, used to be, before it became hard to find books in the genre)/urban fantasy fan than a romance fan.  See, I like reading a book where I don't know the ending.  I could guess, but that doesn't mean I'd be right.  If I know that the two lead characters are going to end up together and everything will be sappy-happy, then why am I reading the book?  Here I'll add that there's one good thing about the paranromal romance subgenre (and there's other stuff too, but this is the one that jumps out most), and that is this:  There must be a strong emphasis on the paranormal as well as the romance.  I love reading about supernatural stuff.  Therefore, I'll probably enjoy the paranormal aspects.  So, there is that.  Still, my main thing is that I want to be kept guessing, and have to follow the story to know how it ends.

Okay, so those are the two things.  

Now I'm wondering, how would you react to an ending where the main character, who you expect to die (whether it's because of a prophecy or because they have a high-risk job or...fill in the blank) and who had come close to it before, does die?  
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First of all, the two books are Married With Zombies by Jesse Petersen and Dead City by Joe McKinney.  Each book was in a different genre, but they shared some (good) things in common.  For example, the events leading up to the outbreak/infection that began the zombie-making process was standard and believable, and there were some good zombie/human fight scenes.  However, specific description will show which one came out on top.

Married With Zombies had a lot of potential.  It was getting good early press on romance blog websites as well as on the Orbit (publishing company) Twitter feed.  But can we talk cover for a second?  Okay, one of the downfalls was that one of the main colors used was neon pink.  Never mind that that suggests this is a female-oriented read, it's pink.  Bright, neon pink.  Kind of an eyesore, even if you like the color.  The cover's saving grace was that the background color was silver (personal thing, but I love silver backgrounds) and the cover artist used outlines of people instead of stock photos.  So, in spite of the neon pink, the cover worked quite well.  The story, sadly, did not work as well.

First, the good, because there was some genuine good about this novel. I liked that there wasn't a lot of yammering on about scenery, and the author tended to say "These are my characters, these are the zombies, this is where the characters are trying to get to to escape from the zombies."  In other words, this was an accessible novel and if you're in the mood for a short, easy read, I couldn't recommend the book enough.  This was labeled as a fantasy novel, but it's been called a paranormal romance in multiple places.  Well, there's enough action and blood and gore to keep fans of other speculative fiction genres happy.  On a related note, the novel followed a couple who was close to divorce, so there were very few lovey-dovey scenes and the ones that existed didn't feel so much about love as I-just-killed-a-bunch-of-zombies-and-I-need-to-work-out-some-frustration.  I appreciated that.

Now the bad.  There were a few worldbuilding problems with the novel (such as, how did the oubreak spread so fast?) but I'll overlook them because the worst and most glaring part was the characters.  The novel was told in first person by Sarah.  If the novel had to be written in first person by anyone, Sarah is better than David (Sarah's husband, who wasn't significant at all in the novel, even though he had his starring moments), but she was unlikable as a character and unlikable as a narrator.  I found it believable enough that she would be "GRRRRR, I'm tough!" after the zombie issue, but she seemed so hardcore/closed/nasty to everyone before that point (see an early scene where she gets upset at her husband over CDs when that scene doesn't play an important role later on).  I love the fact that she judges other people for their "flaws" (they're too perfect, they're too ditzy, they're too mean, they're too shady/cultist, they hate me) and never once considers she's not perfect either and has no right to do the judging thing.  David, meanwhile, was just...there.  The only thing he seemed to do was blame himself for all the things he may or may not have done wrong during zombie fight scenes or show how much stronger Sarah was than he was.

In all fairness to the author, this is her first novel (if not ever, at least in this series, but I'm pretty sure it's her first ever).  I'm thinking some of the problems (worldbuilding, anyway) will be hammered out the more she writes.  I just hated her main characters to the point that they ruined a potentially good novel.

Dead City was a much better novel overall.  It was initially released in 2006 and was reprinted in 2010, and based on the story I read, I could see why it went into reprint.  Yes, it was good.  Yes, read it.

So, this was a horror novel.  It read like a horror novel.  It had the standard something-we-can't-explain (explained to the readers, of course), scenes of action, blood and gore, and oh yeah, lots of zombies.  It even had the obligatory author beats readers over the head with a lesson on human nature.  Ignore pages 264-268 if you don't like this kind of thing.  You won't miss much.  In spite of having a spiel of sorts on human nature, it really was a good read.

The main character was worlds better than the main characters in Married With Zombies.  He was written very human, like someone your might meet in real life.  He had his flaws (biggest one I saw was grudgingly helping a sort-of friend, with no explanation for why he was constantly annoyed with his friend) but he was someone you could cheer for.  I personally found his "I need to find my wife!  I need to find my son!" irritating after a while, not for the reasons people may think.  It's just, you'd think, if he had a choice between fighting zombies to swinging by the house and picking his family up, he'd choose his family.  But until the end of the book, he always chose fighting zombies.  In context it sounds a lot less horrific, because this is a zombie novel and even if he hurried to meet his family at the house, he'd still encounter zombies on his way.  One good thing about being separated from his family was, he'd think of them and that offered him the motivation to keep going.  Characters need motivation, and I found this character's believable.

In short, Dead City was the winner.  Married With Zombies is light (book size), easy reading, which can be wonderful when you don't want a lot to reflect over, but Dead City had better characters and was much easier to overlook the issues.  All that being said, I recommend reading them both for yourself because, well, maybe you'll see something I didn't.

    

  

 

 
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To put it bluntly, yes.  And also no in some cases (one writer in particular writes solid romance with slightly-better-looking-but-nothing-worth-writing-home-about male leads and no/fade to black sex scenes, but she seems to be in the minority) , but mostly yes.  As a note, having not read a solid paranormal romance/romance novel in general for a few good years I can't speak for the new crop.  However, the stuff I read seemed more like the whole goal was to get the characters in bed, not to tell a story where the characters eventually ended up in bed because it was natural.  And that's the angle I'm coming from. 

This debate has been on my mind ever since I read my first paranormal romance and was hooked enough to search out more good books in the genre.  Honestly, I blame the searching aspect for some of this. 

For example, there was a post on the Amazon message board where longtime fans of paranormal romance talked about a fictional example of why their male partner should give up his porn, willingly or otherwise, but they can read their paranormal romance as much and as often as they want.  Because, as the consensus went, there is absolutely nothing porny about romance novels.  These women (and I believe there was one man who posted once in a while, but not so sure if it was on this particular topic) seemed quite intelligent when discussing their favorite novels and props to them for recommending stuff I enjoyed back then (it was a difficult task), but I couldn't see where they were coming from.  Still, I thought I was the only one who thought this and kept it quiet.

So then today I was doing my daily web searches and came across this post: http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/everything-i-need-to-know-i-learned-from-romance-novels-porn-vs.-romance/ which sums up the debate quite well.  Basically, this woman has a boyfriend who gave up his porn when he committed to her, and he wants her to give up her romance because he sees it as porn for women, and she disagrees and wonders what other romance readers think.  When I checked there were only three comments, but I'm thinking by the end of the day this topic will be overflowing with responses.  So far, the thoughts are generally "He shouldn't control what you read.  No one should control what you read" and "He made a choice.  Nobody told him to give it up."  Even if you're like me and disagree with the overall stance, I recommend reading this post because the question asker expresses herself well.  It seems as though she knows what she wants to hear, but she's also confused and genuinely needs the input, and she explains why her boyfriend's thoughts on her reading choice have been bothering her.

The whole point of this has been for me to express my thoughts, so on with my own personal views.  First of all, I firmly agree that you should read what you want.  I may find your choices head-deskable, but it is your reading, not my reading.  Second of all, I fail to see the difference between porn and romance novels.  They both concern hot people, they're both wish fullfillment, they both have the goal of turning you on (except for fade-to-black romance novels, which I think have more of a story).  Third, you know what?  From the paranormal romance novels I've read, I've read very few that were about characters connecting and going through the usual relationship process and eventually ending up in bed.  The authors use this idea of claiming, where the woman is bound to the man and vice versa because "It's destiny!", which leads to "I love you!"  "I love you more!" "Let's hop into bed!" "Yes!"  The end.  Where's the romance?  Claiming is a very paranormal idea and there's definitely sex scenes, but where is the connection that's supposed to separate  porn from romance?  Because if the only reason for saying "Romance is not porn!" is that romance is coming from a "different place" and "there's a connection!" I'm not seeing it.

As a very related side note, talk about controlling.  You're not allowed to tell someone "You can't read that!" in real life, yet this subject of claiming in novels is considered romantic.  *Sigh*  
   
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There's this woman I follow on Twitter, and although she's more of a paranormal romance fan and I'm more of a horror fan I like reading what she has to say.  One of her tweets was about how she went to review a horror novel on Amazon and people responded to her with "Oh, you can't review a horror novel.  You're a romance fan."  While I absolutely synmpathize with her rage, because nobody has any right to tell you what you can and can't review, I'm split on how I feel about people reviewing outside of their genre of choice.

And like in any post I make, I'm going to explain why.

First of all, consider if it was me instead of her.  The roles would be reversed.  I read horror (as well as dark fantasy and some urban/contemporary fantasy and once in a while sci-fi) and tend to avoid paranormal romance (unless it's a novel that's a blend of genres, and paranormal romance happens to be one of the genres).  So, I would be more at home reviewing a horror novel.  I may not review it correctly (and the fact that there is a correct way to review something is a subject I intend to journal about later) but I would definitely get some words on screen.  So what if one day I decide "Hey, I read this paranormal romance novel and I really want to review it?"  That's one of the reasons I'm taking her side, because one day I could be reviewing a book outside of my genre.

That out of the way, I wanted to say why I'm not so sure I'd be comfortable reading a review from someone who doesn't usually read or review in that particular genre.  I personally read reviews to know whether or not to spend my hard-earned (usually lousy) money on a new book.  I want the review to be reliable. Well, if the reviewer isn't familiar with the genre, some of the critique might be a little misguided. 

For example, say you are someone who reads non-supernatural mystery novels.  When you pick up an urban fantasy novel, where you're likely to have a mystery as a huge part of the plot but there's all sorts of supernatural twists to it (maybe someone killed someone else with magic, or someone released a dangerous creature and main character has to find out who released the creature and then stop it from destroying the world), you might not be prepared to review it.  Your review might say "Well, the mystery was there, but what is with all this magic?  Why couldn't you just have everyone be human?"  Any urban fantasy fan will tell you that's the whole point of the novel, but that's just it. Fans will tell you that.  Someone who is new to the genre themselves could write this review and turn off potential new fans because they weren't aware themselves of what they were getting into.

The other issue I have stems from knowing that readers have favorite genres for a reason.  In this woman's case, it's not a stretch to see her read and review horror novels.  She has said she likes the horror genre, even though she's more of a romance reader.  It's just that romance has spoke to her the most.  Well, if she (or anyone, I'm just using her as an example because that's what I've been doing this entire post) is aware going into the horror novel that there's not going to be the romance she loves and it will get disturbing (hopefully) then I have no doubt that she can write a good review.  But what if a reviewer judges the new genre based on criteria from their genre?

We'll use an example of my favorite genres.  It' isn't entirely fair since I'm aware enough of both genres to know "Oh, yeah, that's going to happen" but I'll ask you to go with me for a bit. 

I can enjoy an urban fantasy novel if it has some blood/gore, more than one scene of action, strong supernatural elements, and a strong lead character.  I can enjoy a horror novel if it has a noticeable amount of blood/gore (unless it's psychological horror, and then it gets a pass), more than one scene of action, strong supernatural elements, and a strong lead character.  Both genres (or genre and subgenre) are similar in what I can enjoy.  Here's the things that would take me out of each genre.  I will give up on an urban fantasy novel if there's all this world-building and no action, no supernatural elements to speak of, no magic (implied is fine if that's the point, but there's got to be evidence), a weak character that relies on everyone around them to solve their problems, and extreme romance (such as, there's a dangerous situation going on and the female and male lead take time out to hop into bed)  I will give up on a horror novel if it's not psychological and there's no blood/gore, if there's no action, if it takes half the book to get to the point and then the point is lost at the end, and if I find myself wanting everyone dead, even the "good guys" I'm supposed to cheer for. 

I have different requirements for what makes a good horror novel and what makes a good urban fantasy novel.  When it comes to what I like, the two are very similar.  When it comes to what I don't like, there are important differences.  If I'm reading an urban fantasy novel I can't say "Well, there's no point and I'm wanting everyone dead, so it is a terrible, terrible book!"  If I'm reading a horror novel, I can't say "Well, there's no magic so it's a terrible, terrible book!"  

I keep saying I may have been using an unfair example and I'm beginning to see why, but let's keep going with it.  I might get my review written and it might make me feel better getting it off my chest, but it wouldn't work as a review.  Because I went in with a checklist from my favorite genre expecting something I wouldn't get from the new genre.

Since I've gone on and on, I think I should close this post.  And I'm going to close it with this.  Anyone should be able to review whatever they like.  Nobody should be telling them "Oh, you can't review it because it's out of your genre!"  However, there are things to consider when reviewing something out of your genre.   
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So yesterday I finished reading Blameless by Gail Carriger and it left just enough of an impression on me to write a review.  First there's a note concerning the entire series, then I'm going to tell you the good, then I'm going to tell you the bad (because what was bad was really bad), and finally I'll point you back to the note concerning the entire series.

As for the entire series, I'm hooked.  I don't care how much some of Blameless did not work for me.  I'm hooked.  I will follow this series to the end (which is apparently two more books to go).  It's one of the best paranormal romances I've read.  And a note on that: It's other genres/subgenres too.  I just mentioned paranormal romance because it's the genre a lot of people place this book in and it's one of the few good paranormal romances.  So...

Here's what I loved about this book.  It is really progressive (for the time period it's set in as well as today). 

First of all, you have a female lead who buys into the traditions of the time, but she is more than willing to stand out and be a groundbreaker when she disagrees with it.  She is also what I would consider a strong female lead.  Although there's times she allows her friends/husband to rescue her (and if you read this entire book, you'll see that), it seems as though she does it for them, too.  Here's the thing I most like.  In the second and third books, she's pregnant and that's an important plot point.  Ignoring why that is, I love that she isn't like "Oh my god a BABY!"  She calls it "infant inconvenience", which is amusing as well as, well, I like that it's another way she breaks tradition. 

I also want to mention a secondary character.  Female lead has a friend who is an inventor/scientist.  This woman definitely doesn't follow traditions.  It's mentioned frequently that she wears men's clothing and looks nothing like the other women. 

And let's talk about character romantic relationships.  Well, they don't all end well, first of all.  I think that's good, to see that not every character will (or at least, it's unlikely) get paired up at the end.  But here's what I'm really loving.  Not all the relationships are lovey-dovey sappy-happy.  Not all the relationships are straight.  In fact, the relationship between the female lead and male lead is a) dysfunctional...Like, they're married and they love each other and you can see it, but you can also see that she wants her freedom, doesn't necessarily like being tied down, isn't always in love with him, rarely agrees with him, even says she can't stand him...and the list goes on and b) possibly challenged by a budding scientific/romantic relationship between the female lead and her inventor friend.  I'm excited to see what happens.

Here's what I didn't like.  It was progressive except when it wasn't.

I don't want to spoil a book that is good enough to be read all the way through, but I really need to talk about female lead's baby.  It's obvious in the first half of the book that she doesn't want it.  In fact, there's a scene where the inventor talks about miscarriage and she says something along the lines of "Yeah, if he (her husband, who wanted nothing to do with her after the pregnancy was announced) wants to kick me out, I'll do something just as extreme!"  It's not clear if she's referring to a miscarriage herself, but we know she's not in love with this baby.  At the end of the book when she and her husband kiss and make up, she tells him something along the lines of "You can't just love me.  You have to love both of us."  He grudgingly agrees to that and instant happy ending.  It bothered me for a number of reasons.  First of all, the baby in question was talked about in terms of being a "soul stealer" and being dangerous.  Why would a character who already deals with dangerous creatures on a regular basis knowingly bring another into the world?  Second of all, although our female lead didn't go into the realm of "Oh my god, it's a BABY!", there was no evidence until that point that she wanted it.  Third, the entire explanation of a pregnancy that shouldn't have happened was convoluted, like maybe the author wanted that baby but she wasn't sure how to explain it.  While reading that whole "Yes, it can happen...and by the way, we want to cut you open and take that baby and study it and..." I was absolutely lost.

I also didn't see any reason our female lead should've returned to her husband at the end of the book.  The reuniting scene was awesome because she was angry that he didn't believe her when she said "I'm pregnant and it's yours" (this from the second book) and angry that she felt she had to leave his house (or castle or whatever it was) and angry that everything was trying to kill her while he was depressed and drunk and doing absolutely nothing for her or anybody.  Yet somehow she took him back and everything was okay.  I know paranormal romance is one of the genres for this book, but that shouldn't mean the two leads must end up together (ever or again).

Having praised and ranted, I direct you back to my initial statement.  In spite of the serious flaws in this latest book, I will follow the series.  What can I say, I'm hooked. 
     

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